tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post2123977543382819393..comments2023-06-15T09:13:45.467-04:00Comments on Liberty's Torch: As Ye Give So Shall Ye Get Dept. (UPDATED)Francis W. Porrettohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05862584203772592282noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-57068911532838971922013-01-01T16:08:57.302-05:002013-01-01T16:08:57.302-05:00From the same Anonymous seeking a working link to ...From the same Anonymous seeking a working link to the text of New York Senate Bill 2488: I do believe the page has been disappeared.<br /><br />I wrote a comment about this bill at Legal Insurrection, with a link to your page:<br />http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/12/if-the-names-and-addresses-of-gun-permit-holders-are-fair-game-what-about-this/comment-page-2/#comment-400771<br /><br />Please read that comment before continuing with this note, as I raised some points that your post did not.<br /><br />I also mentioned the LI comment on another site, where someone wrote back that he thought the bill had NOT been passed into law. I therefore did some more research and found other sites that quote the entire text and provide additional info. Here's the response I wrote regarding the current status of the law but could not post on that second site (I hate Disqus):<br /><br />I remember from my earlier reading at the disappeared link that this act was amended in February of 2012, which a post at FireArmsTalk.com confirms:<br />http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f97/forget-about-irresponsible-even-legal-79303/index7.html<br /><br />The post at FireArmsTalk.com states: "Because law enforcement agencies in NY are the stewards of the information that has been made public. The law, as amended on 2/24 of this year clearly states that such information shall be for law enforcement use only ... so either one of the law enforcement agencies charged with this duty was derelict and released the information, or Mr Dwight R Worley misrepresented himself in his freedom of information request or a combination of the two or worse ... ."<br /><br />The complete text of New York Senate Bill 2488 is also reprinted on that page. The description of the bill is "Relates to pistol permit privacy and makes all personal information regarding pistol or revolver licensees confidential except to law enforcement agencies and to individuals requesting information about a named individual."<br /><br />However, another website raises a question about the current status of the bill:<br />http://legiscan.com/NY/bill/S02488<br /><br />The bill was passed in the Senate in June 2012 and was delivered to the Assembly. The LegiScan site notes that its current status is "referred to codes." I don't know what that means, but I suspect that it hasn't yet been enacted into law. What does "referred to codes" mean?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-72563391003616747762013-01-01T13:05:06.057-05:002013-01-01T13:05:06.057-05:00Hm! I just checked, Anon, and I too am getting a b...Hm! I just checked, Anon, and I too am getting a blank page. I have no idea why. I'll try a more direct search.Francis W. Porrettohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05862584203772592282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-85090436220313217282013-01-01T12:53:12.282-05:002013-01-01T12:53:12.282-05:00Your link to the NY State Law on pistol permit pri...Your link to the NY State Law on pistol permit privacy worked for me when you first posted it, but all I am getting now is a blank page. Is it me, or has this page been disappeared?<br /><br />I would like to copy the entire text to have for reference, but I am just not able to access the page any longer. Can you help?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-53174504591550410132012-12-29T13:33:58.131-05:002012-12-29T13:33:58.131-05:00Xealot, while I agree with your conclusion on the ...Xealot, while I agree with your conclusion on the abridgement of our Right, recognized in Amendment II, I disagree with your earlier statement, "However reprehensible we may find it, they did exercise a First Amendment right". I believe that publishing that list and map was ethically as foul as shouting "Fire!" in a crowded theater -- a limitation long recognized on Amendment I.The Old Guynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-7657854406483233762012-12-29T11:55:21.380-05:002012-12-29T11:55:21.380-05:00The problem here isn't that the newspaper publ...The problem here isn't that the newspaper published the map. However reprehensible we may find it, they did exercise a First Amendment right. The real problem is that the list exists in the first place. Why must we ask government permission? Why must they maintain a list of us who are armed? That is the true violation, for if we must ask permission, if we must register... we do not have a RIGHT, as outlined in the Second Amendment. We remain armed solely at the pleasure of our High-Caste masters.Xealotnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-20404186056383047942012-12-29T06:47:47.433-05:002012-12-29T06:47:47.433-05:00Of course a High Caste already exists. Britain is ...Of course a High Caste already exists. Britain is the most obvious example of that and here in Australia we're not too far behind. I was shocked when living in New Zealand - a country which has pretty much the same political and judicial system as Australia - just how far down that road they'd travelled and how little comment it occasioned.<br />Running in parallel with that legal situation was the reality that senior public servants never really lost their comfortable lifestyle as a result of gross negligence or malfeasance--they were simply quietly shuffled sideways (sometimes after a token waiting period) into another cozy sinecure.<br />A caste system? We're wading in it already.KGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01940428991630766942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-3955164093490699202012-12-28T06:14:05.669-05:002012-12-28T06:14:05.669-05:00Is it wrong of me that I'm so glad this guy di...Is it wrong of me that I'm so glad this guy did what he did? It's about time something happened to shake these corrupt media type's up a little bit. They think they can say anything, shape stories, hide what they don't like, and attack anyone who disagrees. I just hope this is the beginning of the fight - why we've been reluctant until now is mind boggling.golfmax13noreply@blogger.com