tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post2351645505223778815..comments2023-06-15T09:13:45.467-04:00Comments on Liberty's Torch: Justified ViolenceFrancis W. Porrettohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05862584203772592282noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-87004098655744979662013-12-08T00:16:18.126-05:002013-12-08T00:16:18.126-05:00Mandela was not fighting for to replace a tyrannic...Mandela was not fighting for to replace a tyrannical government with a free form.....he was fighting to replace a white government with HIS preferred form of government....a black controlled oligarchy. To use him as an example of anything positive is a fools errand.<br /><br />As for the concept of "justifiable homicide" one can say that in a perfect system the idea has merit. In ours where the government can charge you with murder based on the flimsiest of evidence...even on faulty and manufactured evidence and use the full weight power and financial might it has to destroy you the system is wrong. Dannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-35737107123381995712013-12-07T11:02:53.165-05:002013-12-07T11:02:53.165-05:00Well, I am satisfied that the old communist is rec...Well, I am satisfied that the old communist is receiving his just rewards.....in Hell!<br /><br />Bob<br />IIIidahobobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12857771751176894988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-45428205812572582022013-12-07T10:42:28.962-05:002013-12-07T10:42:28.962-05:00Peter: Which part is wrong? Did hundreds of thous...Peter: Which part is wrong? Did hundreds of thousands of blacks cross borders into the white part of South Africa to escape black on black violence? You would be hard pressed to prove that wrong. Was I wrong to point out that prior to this massive illegal immigration that in the white parts of South Africa whites outnumbered blacks? Hopefully you are aware that the blacks had their homelands where whites were not allowed. While these homelands were physicaly located in the Southern part of Africa they were not in what was known as South Africa before 1920. In fact the only way you could be correct is if you ignore or deny the massive immigration of blacks from other countries and ignore the long history of racism and genocide by black black Africans over the last two centuries. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-59849244445202248082013-12-07T07:11:43.880-05:002013-12-07T07:11:43.880-05:00Gathering under the rubric “violence” and “self-de...Gathering under the rubric “violence” and “self-defense from rape” makes overly broad comparisons.ErisGuyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09383064735664269791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-651369443184032982013-12-06T21:55:25.366-05:002013-12-06T21:55:25.366-05:00The first comment above, by Anonymous at 10:48 AM,...The first comment above, by Anonymous at 10:48 AM, is completely and utterly false. South African demographics were never as that comment portrays them. In fact, it's so abysmally in error that I can only view it as deliberate misinformation.Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10595089829300831372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-81628588263608060262013-12-06T14:03:00.374-05:002013-12-06T14:03:00.374-05:00Thought I pass this along from Karl Denninger: How...Thought I pass this along from Karl Denninger: <a href="http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=226546" rel="nofollow">How To Score An Advertising Coup (For Free)</a> it's about the refusal of (to correct Karl, <i>not</i> the NFL but of the FOX network that is carrying the upcoming Super Bowl) <a href="http://reason.com/blog/2013/12/02/watch-the-pro-gun-daniel-defense-ad-the" rel="nofollow">to run an ad from Daniel Defense, a firearms manufacturer</a>.<br />Though I do agree with Karl, it was a clever gambit by Daniel Defense: ''You see, Daniel Defense is a little company. How little? Not much larger than MCSNet was in its hayday -- best estimates are that it has about $12 million in annual revenue.''(sic)<br />Had FOX (if the NFL has any veto on advertisers is purely a matter of speculation) accepted the ad the $4million hit on their gross could likely have been devastating or the company would likely have been forced to withdraw the bid themselves.YIHnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-55179326145638809572013-12-06T13:15:47.136-05:002013-12-06T13:15:47.136-05:00Let's not be too quick to subscribe to that wh...Let's not be too quick to subscribe to that whole later-life repentance nonsense.<br /><br />He murdered people, scores of people white and black, because he was (and remained) a Communist. So, how about we dispense with the "apartheid fighter" fantasy?<br /><br />And now he's the best kind of Communist. Good riddance to bad rubbish.jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18121788916709770717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-41693579218863707472013-12-06T13:05:43.951-05:002013-12-06T13:05:43.951-05:00I hadn't been aware of Mandela's history -...I hadn't been aware of Mandela's history - just know of the most superficial parts of it.<br /><br />Thank you - this is thought-provoking.LindaFhttp://rau.3littlefoxes.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-15969803660938848332013-12-06T11:15:18.966-05:002013-12-06T11:15:18.966-05:00Re the example - in football, the participants are...Re the example - in football, the participants are both willing. In defensive violence, that's not the case. I'm caviling at the example rather than the point. I think defensive violence is absolutely morally justified because I think protection of the innocent is paramount.<br /><br />Re Mandela - violence against the active agents of a political system that needs to be overthrown is acceptable. But never against innocents. There will always be beneficiaries of some oppressive regime who are not culpable whether through age, lack of reason, or ignorance. You can't just kill those people.Weetabixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06106614092497408546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-19690835817690410542013-12-06T10:48:28.574-05:002013-12-06T10:48:28.574-05:00In the South Africa of the past whites outnumbered...In the South Africa of the past whites outnumbered blacks and although there was not equality the lives of blacks there was better then in most of black controlled Africa. Wars and revolutions, mostly marxist/communist in nature, in nieghboring countries created massive immigration into South Africa and the South African government failed to guard their borders to prevent this. Those new "residents" created massive slums to live in and as a result there was a lot of violence and attacks against the white citizens of South Africa. what began as law enforcement soon became discrimination and apartheid in the view of everyone else in the world and there were sufficient violent acts on both sides to reinforce this belief. I could not defend everything the white South African government did but I am convinced that if all of SOuth Africa had been black and encountered the same massive incursion of angry illegals and if then the South African government took the same actions to stop the vioence that the world would have yawned in response. This story was a "mostly" ade up fairy tale about racism that simply got it wrong, 180 degrees out of phase with the truth. I believe that now that Mandela is dead and his influence has ended that the remaining Black South Africans will use this opportunity to rid themselves of the whites. I think the facade will come down and we will see what the battle in South Africa was always about. It was a race war we simply wouldn't accept the facts in front of us. Mandela, even when he was a terrorist, was a moderate. I think now we will see the Marxist Africans commit massive genocide against the remaining whites. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com