tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post3242146943866490468..comments2023-06-15T09:13:45.467-04:00Comments on Liberty's Torch: The IllegalsFrancis W. Porrettohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05862584203772592282noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-53798290270988087322015-11-14T03:12:43.032-05:002015-11-14T03:12:43.032-05:00No border fence needed. Just declare a ten mile de...No border fence needed. Just declare a ten mile deep free-fire zone and patrol it with drones and armed choppers, with orders to shoot on sight.<br />The problem of illegal immigration is only a problem because of the lack of will to do what is necessary.KGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01940428991630766942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-90546560164698958812015-11-13T18:45:57.131-05:002015-11-13T18:45:57.131-05:00I don't see the need for a big, messy, Operati...I don't see the need for a big, messy, Operation Wetback part II. I think Romney was correct when he said that the illegals would self-deport if we just enforced the current laws vis-a-vis the employers of the illegals. Some high-profile public arrests (using handcuffs) of corporate officers and/or HR people all across the U.S. during a 'sweep week' could be all it would take to send the message to every other employer of illegals that this practice is over. White Collar people especially don't like jail.<br /><br />No job for Juan and Maria means no reason for them to stay, which means all the buses heading south would be full. And all by their own impetus. This sounds terribly heartless to some, but is actually what is truly Just in the big-picture. When I occasionally have a personal interaction with an obvious illegal, I have nothing but feelings of kindness and compassion for them because of their plight. But to extrapolate those feelings into a national policy? No way.<br /><br />Since I'm on a roll, one more thing as an interesting aside: and this is per Ann Coulter's latest column. During Eisenhower's Operation Wetback there were 10 persons who self-deported for every 1 who was rounded up. Mark in Minnesotanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-55465204664264308672015-11-13T17:00:49.883-05:002015-11-13T17:00:49.883-05:00As a Minuteman I have heard this 12 million number...As a Minuteman I have heard this 12 million number for 13 years now . Border Patrol has said over and over again " We only catch one in six illegals at any one time " ! So that 12 number is well over that , and you include the ' anchor babies ' you'd be around 20 mil or so . Hell we have 12 million here in CA . This is a major problem here beccaue we are going through a ' culture change ' ! If you want to come to CA you best better speak Mexican . No more of the " Blonde , Blue=eyed , Big=boobed sufer white girl " GGeorge W Shortnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-2184897495403811102015-11-13T16:59:38.698-05:002015-11-13T16:59:38.698-05:00In your costs discussion you failed to mention the...In your costs discussion you failed to mention the costs of not enforcing the borders. By not enforcing the borders and paying out untold benefits to the squatters; in addition to, the impact on wage depression.<br /><br />Also weigh in to those offenders the companies that abuse the H-1B, L, and other visa formats.Gon2Fishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09365454524812879773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-29148849053665164502015-11-13T12:06:21.928-05:002015-11-13T12:06:21.928-05:00The other "good" thing about borders is ...The other "good" thing about borders is that they allow socialism and welfare to continue, rather than immediately falling flat. And they are a distraction from the base cause of harmful, excessive immigration, that very same socialism and welfare. Who is going to bother to shut welfare down, when the problem can be "solved" by big fences and government work permits for everyone and checkpoints on the highways and lots and lots of government enforcers?<br /><br />But hey, at least we can complain about Mexicans breaking the law. After all, everybody should be nice obedient little peons, right? Get ready to turn in your guns when the rulers tell us to...Paul Bonneauhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15279129269584372919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-14368478387667738452015-11-13T11:19:32.140-05:002015-11-13T11:19:32.140-05:00I keep hearing the number 10, 11, or 12 million. T...I keep hearing the number 10, 11, or 12 million. Those are deliberately downplayed numbers. It is in reality more like 20 to 30 million. Wake up America!<br /><br />Never mind, you don't want to wake up. You want your Socialist Security and your Medicare.Longbowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02977251310265101498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-31255714106711945222015-11-13T11:13:41.068-05:002015-11-13T11:13:41.068-05:00Francis, I like your thoughts. the BIG hurdle to o...Francis, I like your thoughts. the BIG hurdle to overcome would be the Left in its entirety, which is a major undertaking. Come to think of it, a large majority on the right as well. Nonetheless, you have a real good start with what you penned. KUDOSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-37786517494945329862015-11-13T10:57:23.967-05:002015-11-13T10:57:23.967-05:00I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand, Syd, but it...I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand, Syd, but it would involve some extra complexities, and a lot of people would complain that it constitutes a reward for lawbreaking. I'll have to think about it for a while.Francis W. Porrettohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05862584203772592282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-85985969539777052372015-11-13T10:33:43.103-05:002015-11-13T10:33:43.103-05:00Would this be a viable solution? If the government...Would this be a viable solution? If the government announced that they were setting up a process to accelerate citizenship applications for legal entry into the US, but only for those who voluntarily return to Mexico, with the alternative being that anyone caught in the country illegally thereafter (appropriate grace period), would be forever excluded from applying, I think you would see that a majority of otherwise law abiding illegals would respond. The drug dealers, gang members, rapists and thugs might be less enthusiastic. syd B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04536022701906707715noreply@blogger.com