tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post3321070395139236365..comments2023-06-15T09:13:45.467-04:00Comments on Liberty's Torch: The Supremacy Of ConscienceFrancis W. Porrettohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05862584203772592282noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-54497296953089283502014-05-16T10:57:53.437-04:002014-05-16T10:57:53.437-04:00Xealot - I think we agree. I misunderstood your i...Xealot - I think we agree. I misunderstood your initial wording.Weetabixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06106614092497408546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-9376966957558045292014-05-16T09:41:39.978-04:002014-05-16T09:41:39.978-04:00Weetabix: Socialism is the penultimate evil govern...Weetabix: Socialism is the penultimate evil government. As Francis said, all governments are evil to some extent. For that matter, all men are sinners, too.<br /><br />Nothing holds a candle to Socialism, however, in the denial of reality, in complete and total subjugation and thought control. A bad king can often be ignored. The reach of a monarch, a single individual, simply cannot extend into every facet of your life. A bad Republican government can be voted away. But a Socialist government can only be toppled by extreme violence, and even then it is a difficult proposition. It destroys families, it degrades the trust between individuals and in so doing weakens resistance.<br /><br />Socialism is the ultimate form of Tyrannical expression. Nothing else compares.Xealothttp://www.thedeclination.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-68043740152122361302014-05-15T17:28:56.696-04:002014-05-15T17:28:56.696-04:00I don't think everyone is sitting still, but t...I don't think everyone is sitting still, but they're not actively acting, either. I think there's a lot of disaffiliation going on.<br /><br />Xealot - what do you consider the ultimate evil among evil governments?Weetabixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06106614092497408546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-12872912912009511852014-05-15T13:29:55.708-04:002014-05-15T13:29:55.708-04:00I apologize, Francis, for the length of this reply...I apologize, Francis, for the length of this reply. It must be said, however, so please bear with me. I promise I am going somewhere with it.<br /><br />Where I disagree with you is your final conclusion. While you are correct to point out that we sit on the sidelines and do nothing what you miss is that there is nothing to be done. The battle has already been lost. Indeed, it was probably lost long before either of us could have done anything constructive about it.<br /><br />I will explain.<br /><br />Just prior to World War II, Socialism -- the penultimate evil among evil governments -- was triumphant. It had not merely won, Francis, it dominated everything. The Bolshevik variety had conquered Russia. The Fascist variety held firm in Spain and Italy. The Nazi brand held sway in Germany and was poised to expand into Austria. France was teetering, half of its government (and much of its policy) was in the hands of the Socialists (the same who would collaborate with the Germans in Vichy). Britain was already falling into it and America was firmly in the hands of Roosevelt and his New Deal, a uniquely American Socialism.<br /><br />The Kings and Emperors were gone. The Republicans were pushed into the margins. Socialism should have won right then and there and Orwell's 1984, in all its horror, should have come into existence. Indeed, it almost did.<br /><br />Something happened then, though. For us, living after the war had closed, it is, perhaps, beyond our comprehension. Intellectually I can grasp its horror, but to live it and feel it is beyond me. Whatever it was that awakened in that terrible conflict, be it the dying pangs of a civilization or merely the last gasp of old Humanists, it turned things around for awhile.<br /><br />Roosevelt had been a popular President, nonetheless the two-term limit was quickly passed after his death. Most of Europe had, at least for awhile, enough of Socialism (even those caught under it wanted out). Franco, upon his death, let the reins of power slip from the Fascists because he knew without a strong hand like his, it would not last. The Soviet Union did not long survive the personal memories of 1918. <br /><br />That was it, Francis. That was what you are asking for in the here and now. They tried, they fought, they died. And when they returned home, they did what in retrospect seems impossible, they actually GAINED GROUND against the tide of government power. They did so silently and without much fanfare.<br /><br />But most of them are gone now, and that willpower just does not exist anymore in the general populace. With them dies the last first-hand memory of a world before the Socialists. Indeed, we find ourselves in a forlorn hope now. Once the vanguard against government power and Socialism, it has long since been cut off from the general population. We are surrounded and there is no where to go, nothing that can be done.<br /><br />There is literally nothing left to do but wait it out. Victory, today, is not possible anymore than it was in the couple of years leading up to 1939. It isn't about that anymore. It's about the survival of our thought-lineage. The government beast will eventually consume itself, it always does, like it did in 1939. It will be terrifying to behold, but perhaps when it comes, ground can be regained again. Then we can get off the sidelines and fight.<br /><br />For now, mere survival is the goal.Xealothttp://www.thedeclination.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-85062578945179522082014-05-15T08:54:58.732-04:002014-05-15T08:54:58.732-04:00You are correct that all governments are corrupt. ...You are correct that all governments are corrupt. The greater the power of a government, the more the corruption.<br /><br />Why would I try to bribe a man who does not have the power to give me something?<br /><br /><br /><br />Bitmapnoreply@blogger.com