tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post4952974175120016928..comments2023-06-15T09:13:45.467-04:00Comments on Liberty's Torch: If This Goes OnFrancis W. Porrettohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05862584203772592282noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-43390488896371011412015-09-06T19:48:05.223-04:002015-09-06T19:48:05.223-04:00I am going to argue simply because I am in a contr...I am going to argue simply because I am in a contrary frame of mind tonight.<br /><br />Fractals and Julian sets suggest that minor changes can have enormous consequences when applied through multiple iterations. The key is to identify and implement some of those changes in the social setting.<br /><br />I propose that we use the Chinese model of incarceration. The FAMILY must pay the "hotel bill" and the cost of the investigation. And in the event of capital punishment, they pay the cost of the bullet and the time it takes to pull the trigger.<br /><br />This seems like a natural outgrowth of "it takes a village to raise a child." Society should demand a refund when the village fails. A conviction of any felony assesses a penalty against the "entitlements" bequeathed to that zipcode.<br /><br />One reason that the Chinese model works is because families do not tacitly support their dysfunctional members malfeasances. In fact, they actively make every effort to stop them. And in the event that their wayward choirboy does something bad, they help turn him in to minimize the cost of the investigation that they will be whacked with.<br /><br />A little bit of pressure, applied in the right place. Time after time after time.<br /><br />That is one possible path out of your future.<br /><br />Of course, we could simply outsource all of our criminal justice activities to China. We have given them almost everything else.Eaton Rapids Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09102166969915526172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-46576190661272831502015-09-01T11:28:38.233-04:002015-09-01T11:28:38.233-04:00My foggy little crystal ball says, civil war, geno... My foggy little crystal ball says, civil war, genocide and the partitioning of the landmass by racial groups after a period of economic collapse. <br /><br />I do not see whites implementing a "final solution". We seem to prefer doing it the hard way.<br /><br />my opinion only based on random electrical impulses of the brain.pdwalkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05943525787137905313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-11475699673351420072015-08-29T20:25:17.551-04:002015-08-29T20:25:17.551-04:00The race-related rot runs deep and diverse. There...The race-related rot runs deep and diverse. There are generations of whites raised believing King (and later Mandela) to be the greatest of men, if not gods in human form. They believe with an absolute religious conviction that whites - may not they, themselves, and few close friends - are inalterably evil.<br /><br />Those ships to Liberia, and the line going through the door, will not be monochromatic.Jimmy the Sainthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05427575709351162996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-33082701000750739282015-08-29T16:08:13.374-04:002015-08-29T16:08:13.374-04:00Increasing tech is going to lead to large protecte...Increasing tech is going to lead to large protected private spaces in which most of us will be "bowling alone". We are already increasingly educating our children at home and private. The cognitive deficients will continue to live on public largesse made possible by the time improving tech (robots, 3d printing, mini nuclears, fracking, self driving/delivering trucks, etc). I hope that genetic/medical tech will solve the problem of cognitive deficiency as well. The technology innovations are coming at an increasing RATE, so it is hard to predict the outcome.rumpole5https://www.blogger.com/profile/13607628501847556362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-64730355842439980162015-08-28T23:30:24.431-04:002015-08-28T23:30:24.431-04:00Fifty-one years, two and one-half generations, and... Fifty-one years, two and one-half generations, and the "black community" is no better off. Welfare, set-asides, the lowering of standards for college admissions, and nothing to show for it...except more demands. BILLIONS of dollars have been wasted and hundreds of thousands of White lives lost. Tens of millions of White people are totally "tapped out" of any concern for this failed group. There is only one solution and it's not going to be pleasant for anyone. Unpleasant, but necessary.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01703122427194226410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-64385934398205779422015-08-28T17:27:59.096-04:002015-08-28T17:27:59.096-04:00You are correct, but not just about the negros. Th...You are correct, but not just about the negros. Think of the whites which are protecting, inciting, and helping the problem childs. They to are being identified and tracked.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12977659892554399256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-52799378036837047752015-08-28T12:18:06.481-04:002015-08-28T12:18:06.481-04:00Basically, I agree with furball, cynic (realist?) ...Basically, I agree with furball, cynic (realist?) that I am. EXCEPT - there is no place to go.<br /><br />Consequently, in spite of fervently wishing Fran's story could be realized, I believe this is what we will actually face:<br /><br />"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival."<br /><br />"There may be even a worse fate. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than live as slaves."<br /><br />Winston ChurchillReg Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14099612693763932005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-41779299223521565642015-08-28T09:52:15.756-04:002015-08-28T09:52:15.756-04:00Sadly I must agree. Unfortunately our education sy...Sadly I must agree. Unfortunately our education system has produced a vast horde of squishy liberal whites who refuse to believe that there is a good percentage of blacks who don't give a rip about their political or social inclinations and hate them because they are white. Sadder still neither group can grasp that constitutional government is not a pact for suicide by altruism. It comes down to failure. If only we had enshrined Ben Franklin's words in the Constitution. "The greatest disservice we can do the poor is to make them comfortable in their poverty." If only the same could be applied to ignorance. As it stands moral relativism will prove the death of reason and the republic.JWMJRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11330556524852443926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-1353028202151413942015-08-28T05:31:23.266-04:002015-08-28T05:31:23.266-04:00Sorry. I see it the other way. I believe it is a v...Sorry. I see it the other way. I believe it is a very few whites, clinging to their guns and blogs, who will board ships and leave.<br /><br />We know that those who volunteer for our military are mostly motivated by patriotism and idealism. But that is changing. One can look at the pictures of warriors forced to wear women's high heels, or read about chaplains forced out of the military or forced to teach diversity above all.<br /><br />Fran, as you and others look at the media narrative, the politics, Academia, the news and culture, you seem to conclude, "These hooligans don't know what they're messing with. They shall reap the whirlwind."<br /><br />I look at the same and conclude, "It's gone. Even my wife and daughter watch MSNBC or tout the courage or "right-thinking" of gays, transgenders, social justice warriors and what were, in an earlier time, called misfits."<br /><br />Misfits have become rallying points. Hatred by diverse groups has become proof of the need for diversity. Al Sharpton resonates with far more people than Ben Carson - or at least that is what will be broadcast.<br /><br />Patriots will be portrayed as the guy with bad teeth and an evil laugh that appeared in the movie, "The Patriot." Sure, he had some good points, but MSNBC (and even the movie) says, "you really wouldn't want to live with him, would you?" And when his son and wife were killed by the evil and inexorable enemy, he gave up and killed himself. <br /><br />The America that visited devastation and woe upon our enemies in WWII and then had the fortitude, wealth and moral certitude to stay and help the Japanese, Germans and the rest of Europe is GONE.<br /><br />You, Ann Barnhardt and several of your fellow bloggers and their compatriots will have the gristle to fire on American troops and police carrying out "illegal orders." Most will not.<br /><br />For myself, I don't know what Waco or Ruby Ridge were. The narrative was written by the Clinton administration. That is what will happen in the coming revolt. You will be tarred 24/7 by 90% or more of the media/culture/administration as racist, delusional haters. You will have great moments of nobility, grace and sacrifice and almost no one will know.<br /><br />And you will cling to that "almost." It'll all seem worth it if a few "remember." <br /><br />Wrong. You'll be dead and the few who remember will be orders of magnitude weaker than you are now. Yes, in the long history of the world, sooner or later "this will pass." But your "stand" and sacrifice won't be the catalyst.<br /><br />Entropy and history will be. (Yes, every little mote is part of the bigger picture. There are other options.)<br /><br />So. Why not go now? Granted, we can't be Spooners and waltz off to another planet just yet. But even your own novel-arc pointed out that everything is sort of a delaying of human nature. So why not delay the apocalypse and go somewhere else for a decade or 6?<br /><br />Where? For a while people were saying go to New Hampshire and make it Conservative. But that's too close. New Zealand? Haiti? (I think Haiti officially threw off slavery in the 1820s, but it is probably at least as far removed from its history as America seems to be.)<br /><br />Australia? Taiwan?<br /><br />I don't know. But SOMEWHERE. Because if the conflagration comes in the next 10 years and we try to stay here, it is NOT going to turn into the bloodbath of blacks, leftists and fools you imagine. It is going to be the French revolution writ large and broadcast 24/7 to the reality TV fans and they are going to cheer the demise of everything you hold dear while eating KFC on food stamps.<br /><br />Proof? Look no further than the morphing of facts into "hatefacts."<br /><br />We lost. It's time to go somewhere else.<br /><br />Tim Turnerfurballhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15779319678886254479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-78915058916880063372015-08-28T01:45:27.366-04:002015-08-28T01:45:27.366-04:00It does my heart good to read that excellent artic...It does my heart good to read that excellent article, and the comments above. Yes, what you're predicting is terrible, and we all hope it won't come to that, but the rising awareness of what is coming is encouraging. Because the alternative to your scenario is, in my view, worse: nothing less than The End Of The World As We Know It.*<br /><br />You say: <i>Only a massive outbreak of good sense among American Negroes, most especially the willingness and determination to discipline their own and accept the verdicts of the judicial system when that discipline fails, can stave off the racial cleansing of the United States:</i><br /><br />We all know that's not going to happen. If negroes as a race were constitutionally capable of that discipline, they would have shown it by now, somewhere in the world, sometime. They haven't. It's twenty years since the OJ Simpson trial; the judicial system is no more capable of managing the problem of black crime (and black juries) than it was then. No, there will be no turning this engine.<br /><br />Your projected resolution may seem unthinkable to some, now, but I have two Axioms of History:<br /><br />1. The unthinkable happens.<br /><br />2. It can turn on a dime.<br /><br />I definitely see racial conflict in America's (and Europe's) future, and Balkanization. It's better to be prepared than clueless.<br /><br />* On second thought, the end of the world as I knew it has already happened. I certainly don't recognise the world I'm living in. But you know what I mean; the fall of Western civilization, and White extinction.AnalogManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10893013914908405597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-52733202412502966062015-08-28T01:44:28.230-04:002015-08-28T01:44:28.230-04:00I see that future as one which would be appropriat...I see that future as one which would be appropriate, given the state of affairs we face today. As others have already indicated, I don't believe it will happen unless we find ourselves on the other side of two occurrences: 1) we survive the conflict with our own government which conservative lovers of liberty and a Republic which completely supports the rights of the individual over the collective are currently facing, and 2) find the strength and _unity_ within our own ranks to choose such a method of dealing with the problem. To many of the Libertarians we might otherwise ally ourselves with, rooting for "open borders" includes this group which chooses race over being American. <br /><br />Thomas DiLorenzo has written of Lincoln's documented desire to have all blacks shipped to Liberia. Certainly, it would be an excellent place to send all of our _African-Americans_, who seem to value being African more than being American. Frankly, I doubt it would be advisable to even give them a choice such as you describe. Why should we suffer the pain of sleepless nights over the termination of a disease, simply because we value life more than they do? Easier to ship them to Liberia.<br /><br />We have lost control of our own government, so I don't see it as a possibility. However, if it _were_ possible, I would submit that it must be extended to the muslims in our midst, as well. Although I think the world would be a better, safer place if we gave muslims no choice beyond Door #2. We have only to recall how long they have been trying to subjugate non-muslims by the sword and by fire.<br /><br />And as far as the primarily Hispanic illegal aliens, I would vote for Door #1 for the first crossing, with Door #2 the only option for a second offense. I have known a good number of (mostly) Mexicans who have become legal resident aliens and citizens who like being Americans. The illegals and the La Raza crowd - and their gringo supporters and enablers - should be expelled. Reg Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14099612693763932005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-44554095652974173872015-08-27T21:22:50.221-04:002015-08-27T21:22:50.221-04:00Arthur made my point above -- the secrecy necessar...Arthur made my point above -- the secrecy necessary would make the project as you described it out of the question.<br /><br />I'm curious why you describe America as a powder keg. Are many of your white neighbors expressing resentment about black violence? No one in my middlebrow, non-conservative social circles mentions it, but perhaps that's because I'm in a very white area near Portland OR, a relatively white city. The only place I hear about continuing violence toward whites is on the internet and in news from cesspools like Baltimore.daniel_dayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18399665251275194585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-5306656308380193192015-08-27T20:25:12.674-04:002015-08-27T20:25:12.674-04:00All I can add is this.Quotes from a great movie bu...All I can add is this.Quotes from a great movie but oh so relevant,I mean it is just down right spot on.<br /><br />Orcs ,blacks what’s the diff.<br /><br />Theoden: A great host, you say?<br />Aragorn: All Isengard is emptied.<br />Theoden: How many?<br />Aragorn: Ten thousand strong at least.<br />Theoden: [astonished] Ten thousand?<br />Aragorn: It is an army bred for a single purpose: to destroy the world of men. They will be here by nightfall.<br />Theoden: Let them come.<br /><br />[the army of Isengard starts charging at the walls of Helm’s Deep]<br />Theoden: So it begins.<br /><br />Theoden: When last I looked, Théoden, not Aragorn, was king of Rohan.<br /><br />Theoden: I will not risk open war.<br />Aragorn: Open war is upon you whether you would risk it or not.<br /><br />Theoden: So much death. What can men do against such reckless hate?<br />Aragorn: Ride out with me. Ride out and meet them.<br />Theoden: For death and glory.<br />Aragorn: For Rohan. For your people.<br />Theoden: The Horn of Helm Hammerhand will sound in the deep, one last time!<br /><br />Theoden: Crops can be re-sown, homes re-built. Within these walls… we will outlast them.<br />Aragorn: They do not come to destroy Rohan’s crops or villages. They come to destroy its people. Down to the last child.<br />Theoden: What will you have me do? Look at my men. Their courage hangs by a thread.<br /><br />Theoden: Where is the horse and the rider? Where is the horn that was blowing? They have passed like rain on the mountain, like wind in the meadow. The days have gone down in the West behind the hills into shadow. How did it come to this?DinduNuffinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02720959080244968973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-59508648276310502512015-08-27T18:03:24.539-04:002015-08-27T18:03:24.539-04:00As I like to say, men intend the natural consequen...As I like to say, men intend the natural consequences of their acts. So, what are those consequences?<br /><br />Blacks had an extraordinary opportunity to pull themselves up and advance with the generous assistance of whites. Ever since the first day of the "Civil Rights Revolution," however, blacks have chosen parasitism, crime, evasion of responsibility, clowns and communists for their elected representatives, a disgusting mass culture, and unrelenting hatred of whites. <br /><br />"Shucking and jiving" covers a lot of territory where the white experience of blacks is concerned and there is nothing, N-O-T-H-I-N-G is on the radar that indicates that this trend line is bending backward and down.<br /><br />Whites fleeing black pathology are meeting whites coming the other way fleeing the same thing. To have your neighborhood turn heavily black means it is certain that your and your family's life is about to be nightmare of assault, abuse, theft, home invasion, stray bullets, gangs, drugs, refuse, and housing decay.<br /><br />The passivity of whites so late in the game is hard for me to understand but, judging from the tone of many web comments I read, I conclude that there is now a great deal of white rage at how our country has been turned into a cesspool. "Diversity" means nothing more than "destruction of a great country." That lie is visible for all to see.<br /><br />To jeering, inattentive blacks everywhere I say, "Keep it up, you all. You just keep it up, hear."<br />Col. B. Bunnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09590364016079745156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-79377045918290451642015-08-27T16:20:48.121-04:002015-08-27T16:20:48.121-04:00"It’s drawing nearer all the time."
Of ..."It’s drawing nearer all the time."<br /><br />Of course it is. Anyone with sense can see it.<br /><br />It will be horrible. But we'll have to choose whether to continue supporting a minority people who make war upon us the majority, and utterly wiping them out in battle. Diminishing resources and increasing violence in the Democrat-controlled zones will force the choice sooner rather than later.Backwoods Engineerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13666984602233967254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-49953152715129097302015-08-27T13:53:41.668-04:002015-08-27T13:53:41.668-04:00That future requires organization and rigid discip...That future requires organization and rigid discipline. I don't think it'll come about, at least not on a national level.<br /><br />The US will break into pieces before that happens. Instead of a separate continent, they'll just dump the exiles over the new wall into the neighbouring territory.Arthurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09289639279717534292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-43622399500091496682015-08-27T12:14:55.421-04:002015-08-27T12:14:55.421-04:00I want to tell you that you're wrong -- almost...I want to tell you that you're wrong -- almost desperately so. But for every reason I can conceive of that you're wrong, I see all too many reasons to come to the opposite conclusion. <br /><br />http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/08/27/dana-loesch-shows-unimaginable-reactions-to-wdbj-on-air-killings-good-job-media/Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16445328419607697910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-84780829382112483302015-08-27T10:48:12.322-04:002015-08-27T10:48:12.322-04:00Hope you're wrong and so do you. There are som...Hope you're wrong and so do you. There are some great black minds beginning to step forward so there is that.Ron Olsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08254200694378708747noreply@blogger.com