tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post699724651359038706..comments2023-06-15T09:13:45.467-04:00Comments on Liberty's Torch: Fool me once.Francis W. Porrettohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05862584203772592282noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-1160880726872514992019-01-15T14:52:06.708-05:002019-01-15T14:52:06.708-05:00@Col. Bunny: Attempting to deny the vote - even vo...@Col. Bunny: Attempting to deny the vote - even voicing the concept - is silencing squared.<br /><br />They think that by silencing people the "unpleasant ideas" will go away. No, they won't. They'll be driven into hiding, and in the echo-chamber minds of those who hold those ideas and only voice them to others of like mind, they'll resonate and grow. They'll distort beyond recognition and reasoned-discourse answer.<br /><br />I don't want civil war, whether here in the US or anywhere. But... for example... I have seen videos / read accounts of people in numerous Western European nations pleading for their leaders to stop the immigrant flow. There was, a few years ago, a grandfather complaining his granddaughter could not walk to school without getting harassed; the mayor said "Well, that's how it is" and "Tell her to walk another way to school". You can BET that grandfather started talking with some of his buddies about what to do. Similar stories can be found about almost every country over there. Gun ownership - legal gun ownership - is skyrocketing and I have no doubt people are getting them extra-legally too.<br /><br />What's that JFK quote? Those who make peaceful change impossible make violent revolution inevitable. Or something very close to that.<br /><br />Gonna blow. And the same voices that tried to suppress it will decry it. And people like you, me, Francis, Linda, and myriad others will say "We TRIED to stop it, we PLEADED with you to listen before it got this bad... but you were SO CONVINCED that you were morally superior, so advanced intellectually, that you didn't listen."<br /><br />NITZAKHONhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04110716447757507226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-74535670758459506512019-01-15T14:23:33.071-05:002019-01-15T14:23:33.071-05:00NITZAKHON, I love the magma analogy. The betrayer...NITZAKHON, I love the magma analogy. The betrayers play with fire when they think they can shut certain people out of public debate or criminalize certain ideas. Ann Landers, I think, had a piece on the eight most important words, the seven most important words, etc. The five most important words were, "And what is your opinion?" I'm personally ok with an action that goes against my wishes most of the time because, hitherto at least, I assumed the actors were people of good will AND I got to say my piece or had AN OPPORTUNITY to say it. I think a lot of the steam inside people dissipates if they think their opinion was at least considered. Flash forward to our execrable present and you have a lot of absolute traitors and betrayers who are deciding what sentiments are beyond the pale. Suppressing ideas goes straight to the issue of good will and oppressive power and when people start focusing on that you're opening whole new vistas of understanding. This issue of Google and YouTube censorship is hot and eminently understandable by people not otherwise politically involved.<br /><br />Attempting to deny the vote is the same mistake. Really?<br /><br />Reg T, I didn't know you had been in the HP. Interesting point indeed about the provision to ignore the membership. I think "Who are these clowns?" is a question that is on a lot of lips now. I've about popped every vein I have at the arrogance and treason of the elites and the seeming lethargy of the citizenry. God bless all the populists out there who are at last getting some traction. It's been slow in coming but if the left thought they had a lock on the ratchet device that made every leftist outrage permanent, they have not seen nothin' yet. The populist wave will not be patronized or reverse direction any time soon.Col. B. Bunnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09590364016079745156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-23132935399747123332019-01-14T10:32:50.302-05:002019-01-14T10:32:50.302-05:00Did any of you see this:
German newspaper says su...Did any of you see this:<br /><br />German newspaper says supporters of party opposed to mass Muslim migration should be denied right to vote<br />https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/01/german-newspaper-says-supporters-of-party-opposed-to-mass-muslim-migration-should-be-denied-right-to-vote<br /><br />So you can't speak out against The Elites. You can't publicly oppose their direction. You must comply with their pronouns and everything else. And now, per the above, if you are subject to wrongthink they're proposing you not even be allowed to participate in the electoral process.<br /><br />I will be curious to note the reaction to the link's proposal. That the Left wants to silence and disenfranchise critics is a given - but it will be very... educational... to note how this is discussed. Will it be a full-on decrying of it, or will there be qualifying "Well, it's a horrible idea... but..."NITZAKHONhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04110716447757507226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-15221846768121824082019-01-14T08:39:08.943-05:002019-01-14T08:39:08.943-05:00This reminds me of the union I was forced to join ...This reminds me of the union I was forced to join in order to be hired by the California Highway Patrol. In the by-laws - and I haven't a clue how they got it past the union membership - was this little gem: in any issue before the union, the board's decision overruled that of the membership. Even if all the union members voted against a particular issue, the decision of the board could rule in favor and the issue would be passed. The board didn't even have to vote unanimously, just a majority.<br /><br />Howja like them apples? At least the countries in the EU can exit if they wish. No such luck with our union.Reg Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14099612693763932005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-36140859338263634102019-01-14T07:17:46.453-05:002019-01-14T07:17:46.453-05:00IIRC a similar thing happened with Ireland. The I...IIRC a similar thing happened with Ireland. The Irish had a referendum to join the EU, voted NO, and were told to vote again until they got it "right".<br /><br />Witness, now, the attempts to make ANY criticism of unlimited migration illegal. Just look at a story I read this morning about DNA's co-discoverer Watson being stripped of every title / honor for DARING to suggest that there might be racially-based differences in IQ (despite there being, clearly, evolutionary pressures that created other differences)… note, I'm not saying to discriminate, and but acknowledge science! The same for the whole transgender thing.<br /><br />When large numbers of people have grievances, in this case absolutely legitimate, and are told they can't express them, can't discuss them, can't act in their own interests to contest them, you get a vast underground "magma chamber" that when it does surface, is calamitous.<br /><br />I read a story, which I may have already noted in a comment, about a young Swedish woman in front of their parliament calling the leadership betrayers. As I glean, here and there, there are a LOT of people across western Europe who feel the same way.<br /><br />Gonna blow. And when it does, as Peter Grant noted on his blog a year or three ago, "... nobody goes from zero to jackboot like the Europeans."<br /><br />Gonna blow. And it's going to be bad when it does.<br />NITZAKHONhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04110716447757507226noreply@blogger.com