tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post4287865869768449215..comments2023-06-15T09:13:45.467-04:00Comments on Liberty's Torch: Necessary StepsFrancis W. Porrettohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05862584203772592282noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-44247935167934146982014-05-13T06:49:49.927-04:002014-05-13T06:49:49.927-04:00My question stems from my ignorance; how would you...My question stems from my ignorance; how would you "enforce" the ban past 20 weeks? <br />Is the state of obstetrician's practice that they can determine <b>definitively</b> the age of the child? (it is my personal belief that life begins at conception)<br />I can picture the raging court orders and hearings being publicized, but in the meantime, an innocent child will be born. If the mother was willing to abort the child, she will either neglect them, or turn them over to the state.<br />What are the practical realities of how such a law would be implemented? Would the mother be charged if she attempted to abort he child herself? <br />These scenarios are tailor made for progressives to loudly wail about the "war on women"...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-40099874773587866402014-05-12T13:13:02.005-04:002014-05-12T13:13:02.005-04:00My beliefs on this issue have evolved and are stil...My beliefs on this issue have evolved and are still evolving. I have a couple of questions that I am not able to answer satisfactorily.<br /><br />1. Given that the best predictor for failure in life within society (ie, tendency for drug and alcohol abuse, violence, and crime) seems to be that the person was an "unwanted" birth; and that violent crime in the US has decreased since the number of unwanted children post Roe v Wade has decreased; what happens to the greater society if those unwanted children are born?<br /><br />2. Given that many if not MOST of the aborted children are carried by self-evidently irresponsible people, what possible good is there that those children are born with fetal alcohol syndrome, drug addictions, aids and other diseases, or mental impairments caused by poor nutrition, and that they are born into a culture of dependency, violence and abuse? (And what is the effect of millions of such babies on society at large?)<br /><br />3. what possible changes could be effected in society that would mitigate against 100s of thousands of damaged babies entering the world? What will they do when they grow up? What would a society look like that could COMPEL a woman to carry to term a baby she does not want, or care about, in a way that would result in healthy babies and later healthy, contributing adults? Who would raise those unwanted children in a way that wouldn't result in a continuation of the cycle of poverty, violence, and dependency?<br /><br /><br />I have not seen any discussion or plan to reduce the NEED or DESIRE for abortion, only a call for its ending. It has a lot of parallels to the 'war on drugs' in that it attempts to regulate a behaviour, and not the factors that create that behaviour in the first place.<br /><br />It may be that it is better, in terms of net human suffering, that those children are not born. Perhaps it is a mercy that they do not become the victims and perpetrators of abuse and violence.<br /><br />As I said, my current beliefs are evolving.<br /><br />anon<br /><br />BTW, the discussion almost always ignores the rights of the male involved, and the logical conclusions that result when the state says the female is the only one who can choose to end a pregnancy. If the female is the only one who can say NO then she is the only one who can say YES. By accepting that right, she should also accept FULL responsibility. That means no sueing for child support, amongst other things. And again, I can't imagine what society looks like that could COMPEL these things. (Or rather I can imagine it, and it is nothing any sane person would like to see.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-36610670990319451232014-05-11T21:17:53.822-04:002014-05-11T21:17:53.822-04:00I've recently come back to reading the blogosp...I've recently come back to reading the blogosphere, and I had thought you had stopped writing there. I miss Eternity Road. Now I find you here. <br /><br />What a nice surprise!<br /><br />Anyhow, this is a subject I have been trying to reconcile within myself for years, especially my libertarian side, and now, having returned to the Catholic Church. I was always at a loss.<br /><br />What ultimately tipped me, in my own self centered way, was the premature birth of my children. My wife went into labor eleven weeks early with our twins, Max and Stella. And, well, something happened in me. After all, they were obviously human beings ( and strangely robust ones at that for being as early as they were: both 21 inches long, and in the five pound range). <br /><br />How could anyone see them, or any other child (infant may be more correct but, I prefer to say child, to reinforce that it is a person, when talking to people)?<br /><br />How is abortion not murder? <br /><br />Anyway, it's good to know you are back. I look forward to continued reading.J. Sullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00524149847037349007noreply@blogger.com