tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post7641672273344185890..comments2023-06-15T09:13:45.467-04:00Comments on Liberty's Torch: The vital necessity for there to be a moderate Islam.Francis W. Porrettohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05862584203772592282noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-2785347793317304862014-09-05T23:06:53.774-04:002014-09-05T23:06:53.774-04:00Mr. T, 100% correct. Erdogan laid it out about ho...Mr. T, 100% correct. Erdogan laid it out about how there's no such thing as moderate Islam, just Islam.<br /><br />Thanks, Dystopic. I know the Iranians persecute the Bahai. I can understand the B willingness to distance themselves from Islam. I'll keep an eye out for evidence of that faith's having had Islamic roots. After saying Mohammed is but one of many prophets you've pretty much left Islam in the rear view mirror and the rest of it is just detail. <br /><br />The sad part of it all is the universal Islamic devotion to the death penalty for apostasy. But for that there would be as much theological diversity (much as I hate that word) in Islam as in Christianity.<br /><br />The Sufis are sometimes seen as a more moderate sect of Islam but I recall reading that that's wrong. They're just as bloodthirsty as the rest. Or, should I say, their beliefs do not prevent them from the usual killing as the need arises. I could be wrong.Col. B. Bunnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09590364016079745156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-88375137081809728952014-09-05T10:33:16.031-04:002014-09-05T10:33:16.031-04:00Col. B. Bunny: That's intentional. If you read...Col. B. Bunny: That's intentional. If you read their history, you will find that they grew out of a Shia Islamic movement in Iran, back in the 1800s, but they consciously rejected the violent streak inherent in Islam.<br /><br />Muslims decided to kill them for it (most of them were kicked out of Iran or killed), and so Bahais have no great love for Muslims and sought to distance themselves from their Islamic roots. Probably a good thing from a PR perspective, I suppose.Manuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13082153758868357687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-85995140651151417042014-09-04T22:51:59.653-04:002014-09-04T22:51:59.653-04:00There is no "moderate Islam" The orthodo...There is no "moderate Islam" The orthodox Islam - within which abrogation overrules the early more "peaceful pronouncements of Mohammed, replaced with the later demands to kill, behead, enslave; with the stoning, wife-beating, child molesting, bestiality supporting tenets - states that a "moderate Muslim" (did such a one exist) would be an apostate, and thereby subject to death.<br /><br />Moderate Islam is a fiction, a product of taqqiya, spoken of and supported by muslims until such time as they comprise sufficient numbers to begin killing those "moderates" with impunity, and to remove their sheep's clothing and proclaim they were just kidding. <br /><br />And those who would submit (the true definition of the word "Islam" is "submission", not "peace" ;-) are beheaded or killed even after they have proclaimed "There is no God but Allah, and Mohammed is his prophet."<br /><br />Reg Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14099612693763932005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-25609978706830882102014-09-04T15:59:41.054-04:002014-09-04T15:59:41.054-04:00Dystopic, there's nothing on their web site th...Dystopic, there's nothing on their <a href="http://www.bahai.org/faq/facts/bahai_faith" rel="nofollow">web site</a> that indicates that it's a variant or offshoot of Islam.Col. B. Bunnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09590364016079745156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-52712877047176304942014-09-04T14:25:08.027-04:002014-09-04T14:25:08.027-04:00There really is a moderate Islam. It's called ...There really is a moderate Islam. It's called the Bahai Faith and it is decent, peaceful and accepting of other beliefs. They are headquartered in Israel.<br /><br />Most Muslims hate them. Manuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13082153758868357687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-49860811629526542572014-09-03T18:01:23.980-04:002014-09-03T18:01:23.980-04:00Agreed on the delusion part. Terminal case.
What...Agreed on the delusion part. Terminal case.<br /><br />What is the "imam descending from the second heaven" reference, please?Col. B. Bunnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09590364016079745156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6557458849091969678.post-72504892158096612112014-09-03T17:52:41.924-04:002014-09-03T17:52:41.924-04:00Moderate Islam. Peace and safety. Abomination.
I...Moderate Islam. Peace and safety. Abomination.<br />Iman descending down from the second heaven.<br />Trying to happen. Do not know if that is now, but the strong delusion part seems to be working.nealnoreply@blogger.com